Before the interview begins, you can read some of his poetry at Lit Break Journal HERE . And you can contact him at his Facebook Author Page
HERE if you want to respond to his poetry or ask him any questions.
THE INTERVIEW:
Q. When did you first write poetry? Have you written fiction or non-fiction as well?
I wrote half a dozen poems during my last two years of high school. After that it was fifty years before I wrote a poem again. When I started college, I wanted to write plays more than anything else I could imagine doing in life. But since there weren’t many undergraduate playwriting classes, most of the writing classes I took were for short fiction.
I eventually had to accept that the short stories and plays I wrote were, frankly, incompetent. But they had just enough glimmers of talent to keep me trying for a few years and enough talent to keep my instructors from writing me off. When I put my creative energy into art and design classes I got a positive reception and a lot of encouragement. I did make a few more attempts to write plays during my late twenties but after that I stopped doing creative writing altogether.
Q. What inspired you to start writing poetry again—fifty years later?
I went through some emotionally difficult circumstances starting in 2012. Poetry started creeping into some letters I was writing a year later and I found that writing poetry was a good way to process some of the emotional overload of those days. I had no idea that I might actually have a talent for it—meaning the poetry.
2016 was when I started attending a weekly poetry workshop. After a few weeks at the workshop, all my other interests became what I did when I wasn’t writing. I’ve been at it ten to thirty hours a week since then and I try to have a poem for the workshop most of the time.
Q. Where do you find your inspiration for poetry? What sparks your interest?
During the years that I made a living as a designer, doing mostly retail store design, I spent about half of my free time studying and reading on my own—subjects like psychology, world religions, mythology, and medieval culture—that was my idea of having fun.
I suspect a lot of what I write now pulls from that—although I’m not remembering a book or author. Instead, I’m prompted, in some way, to remember what I’ve learned about different ways to look at the world, different postures one can take. A memory of something that I studied years ago may be triggered by a line I’ve written and then my memory of the subject might return along with the joy of the initial discovery.
I’m inspired a great deal by the very process of writing poems—looking at significant experiences in my own past and our culture’s past—then the trial and error of trying to remember what it was I understood the first time around—the initial hunch, the initial shots in the dark, the ones that echoed without the usual ridicule—trying to retrofit various meanings onto an experience from the past in the present time in a way that opens up the experience without suffocating it, subjecting it as well to metaphors, irony, various meters and forms, listening for multiple voices that I can put in tension, then stirring and shaking and editing for several days.
And sometimes, the whole mess starts to sound like a poem. Or it doesn’t. And the resulting poem, if one arrives, is rarely anything like what I imagined writing. Where did it come from? The surprise of it all, when it happens, has me wanting to try it again as soon as I can. There’s nothing else like it. And when the process is working, there’s the matter of feeling connected to something larger than myself—when I can trust in the alchemy of it all. And at other times the trust thing is lost and the alchemy stuff sounds silly, immature, and superstitious. And when I feel that way I don’t write well or I don’t write at all.
Occasionally I write something just to have fun. But I can have a great deal of fun writing about an otherwise depressing subject if I can bring imagination to it.
Q. What is your writing process? Do you first start with an image? A recurring line? A theme or idea?
I usually start with three or four words that become part of the first line of the poem. That’s what usually gets something sputtering about on the page. And I can get awfully impatient waiting for those to show up. If I’m hoping to get a new poem started, I’m usually throwing words and phrases around in the back of my head, somewhat unconsciously, at various idle moments and hoping to hear something unexpected, intriguing, or phonetically delicious.
For me, if I catch a little phrase that’s clever but doesn’t have any emotional meat on it, I’ve learned that I have to throw it back. I’ve also tried to start a poem from an image but it seems my visual art background gets in the way. Most of my poems have a story line and so far, when I find an exciting image I want to work with I haven’t been able to find a story inside it. I find that my poems are not inclined to “be here now;” they’re not inclined to expand the present moment.
Q. How often do you write? Do you write full time or part time?
I have a simple part time job but other than that I can put about as much time as I want into writing which is currently about fifteen hours each week. If I’m really immersed in a poetry project, it’s wonderful to spend six hours every day of the week writing. That’s my idea of luxury. Once or twice a year I find that I need to stop writing for a few months and build something with my hands. That seems necessary.
Q. Do you read a lot of poetry? Who are some of your favorite poets and why?
I try to. The poets I enjoy tend to be pretty philosophical. That really limits the range of poets that I read. I’d like to be able to read more broadly but I think I’m just not wired that way. With that in mind, my two favorite poetry books on the nightstand now are one by Louise Glück and one by Tomas Tranströmer. I’m also enjoying the work of Chris Wiman currently and some of Jane Hirschfield, James Richardson, Mahmoud Darwish, Rilke and Neruda. Those are a few of the names that come to mind. The names keep changing.
Q. How important do you think poetry is to society?
Regarding the culture at large, I think it’s currently of marginal value given the way that film, television, popular songs, and novels have taken over much of the role of poetry in the culture. I think that’s just the nature of a technological culture. But there’s an economy or density that’s unique to poetry. Some poets have coupled this aspect of poetry with the capabilities of Instagram, Twitter, and audio files and their poems are being read by a previously unimagined number of readers. While it’s safe to say these poems are not ones appearing in The New Yorker or Poetry, perhaps the internet offers a potential for a poetry renaissance?
For myself and many of my poet friends, regardless of the culture at large, I think we’d defend our right to read and write poetry with our lives or at least with some very sharp words.
Q. Your bio lists an MFA in Stage Design and theater work. Does your experience in theater affect your poetry?
While the theater work was short lived, I do like to include a little dialogue in some of my poems. Also, I keep trying to think up ways I could do readings that would be richer and more impactful for listeners, more theatrical in the best sense of that word. I often wonder if public readings could be done in a way that would attract a greater number of non-poets.
Q. You’ve been published in online magazines, been a featured poet in a poetry program in Placerville and at the Sacramento Poetry Center. What’s next?
I think I should set up a web site. I’ve just now set up a Facebook “writer page” so I’ll see how that works first. I’m getting ready to send out more poems. And I want to see if there’s a way to pull together a chapbook. I’ve been trying out a number of different styles and themes including a number of prose poems. I’m not sure if I can find a common theme or style that will allow a selection of my poems to cohere.
Q. What is your advice for someone just getting into poetry, either as a reader or a writer?
As a writer, participating in a regular poetry workshop has been the most helpful step for me.
One might consider these services to discover poets to learn from and be inspired by:
https//poets.org/poem-a-day
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/newsletter (check “Poem of the Day”)
https://poems.com/
Meeting modern poems for the first time: If you want to read or write poetry in the modern vein but you haven’t had much exposure previously, I’d suggest that newcomers anticipate that some poems are hard to read. I presume if one knows this up front it will be less frustrating if comprehension ever feels like an issue. I’ve found lots of modern poetry very easy to read. Maybe read more challenging poems as you have time and interest? I wish someone had told me how much easier it gets with experience.
Reminder: You can read some of Gary's poetry at Lit Break Journal . And you can contact Gary at his Facebook Author's Page .
How many of you like to read or write poetry? Which do you like best, and what kind of poetry? Have any of you submitted your poetry to websites or magazines? Any follow-up questions for Gary?
I really enjoyed this post, Elizabeth. You asked some very thoughtful questions. I thought your last one and Gary Kruse's response struck home with me. "Some poems are hard to read" struck a chord with me. In fact, I haven't really enjoyed poetry since high school, where the poems were chosen for me. Thanks for this.
ReplyDeleteIt's good to see people, like yourself, are still writing poetry. I've written poetry in the past, but not lately. But seeing people like you and Gary Kruse inspires me to write some. Maybe I will.
ReplyDeleteHello, Elizabeth (and Bleubeard). I'm glad the last question and Gary's answer resonated with you. I've been into poetry off and on most of my life, but Gary's answer resonated with me, too. I find it hard to get into some modern poetry, and his answer made me realize that I haven't really given it much of a chance. For instance, I haven't tried re-reading poems I find difficult. So I learned a lot here.
ReplyDeleteGlad to see you here again, Richard. I'm glad this post inspires you to try poetry again. I love reading and writing fiction, but poetry is a very special kind of expression. I hope you will write some again. I think poetry would come natural to you, since you enjoy visual art so much. In my mind, they are closely linked.
ReplyDeleteThanks for an interesting interview.
ReplyDeleteWhat an interesting interview. And how wonderful that Gary has found poetry again after so many years without it.
ReplyDeleteThanks for stopping by, Rosi. I'm glad you found the interview interesting. I haven't done interviews for quite a while, and, as before, was pleased at how much I learned that I wouldn't have known otherwise.
ReplyDeleteHi, Kate, I so agree that it's good he re-discovered his poetry,— he's a very good poet! I can't really imagine going 50 years without poetry.
ReplyDeleteI'm interested that he had such a big gap before trying his hand at poetry again. I've just started to dabble in verse; it's so different from everything else I write, but it's good to be trying something new.
ReplyDeleteI agree, Julia. Poetry is such a different expression. I think it's more directly connected to your feelings and emotions. I have read in various books of writing advice that fiction writers should explore poetry, both reading it and writing it, to enrich their fiction writing—probably because of the heightened ability for imagery.
ReplyDeleteI’m glad we’re connecting with regard to poems that are hard to read. True confessions: I still run into poems that look like so many random words on a page and for a moment I feel that poetry is a club where I don’t belong. And my instinct is often to feel dumb or a little insulted from time to time. I haven’t found a good “poetry club member’s handbook“ yet that explains it all. But it really helps to remember what I told myself about visual art—I go to shows and exhibits hoping to find that one piece of art, that one artist in a hundred that is so astonishing it makes up for the time I spend looking at all the others pieces with mild interest—or no interest.
ReplyDeleteWhat a great interview, Elizabeth, and nice to be introduced to Gary and his poetry. I was especially interested in Gary's answer to the question about his writing process, where those first words come from. Also appreciate the on-line links. Will check those out. I'm still a learner, soaking in all I can about poetry as I dabble in it myself :-) Thanks for the interview...
ReplyDeleteDear "Unknown", how I wish you had signed your name. I hope you come back to read this. I encounter poems I don't get, too, much as I love poetry and much as I keep exploring different kinds. I do find it helpful to re-read some of those poems, and now that I've joined a couple of poetry workshops, I try to listen to explanations of poetry I don't get. Like you, I've had the same experience with visual art. I'm not particularly into "modern" art, and yet, every now and then a really interesting piece will strike home and I love it! Go figure.
ReplyDeleteHi, Kenda, I'm so glad you enjoyed the interview and Gary's comments. I learned a lot, too. Like you, I am still learning. Have a great day.
ReplyDeleteHi Kenda,
ReplyDeleteIn your comment you ask "where those words come from." If you're referring to "I usually start with three or four words that become part of the first line of the poem:"
I guess that they come from my subconscious. Something in my conscious life must trigger them but I've never understood the relationship. Some have said that one can consciously request a dream and one may be provided. Maybe it's like that. I started noticing this only after I'd been writing a couple years. It's a very subtle process. Maybe the words come from something I thought about a few days earlier but I've forgotten the source.
-Gary Kruse
What a wonderful interview. Wishing you both much success.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Sandra, and welcome back!
ReplyDeleteHi back, Elizabeth--and to Gary, thanks for your additional thoughts on inspiration. Around the time I read your post, I started reading Denise Levertov's "The Poet in the World." Hers is a fascinating read on inspiration, too, if you're interested in checking out her work... :-)
ReplyDeleteWhat an interesting interview. I have often found that I write more poetry during times I am struggling with a lot of emotions. Wishing Gary all the best!
ReplyDelete~Jess
Hi, Jess, I will pass on your good wishes. Meanwhile, glad you liked the interview. I agree, poetry time seems to arise when things grab my emotions, too. Have a Happy Thanksgiving.
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